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←etter 59. On pleasure and joyMoral letters to Luciliusby Seneca, translated by Richard Mott GummereLetter 60. On harmful prayersLetter 61. On meeting death cheerfully→483036Moral letters to Lucilius — Letter 60. On harmful prayersRichard Mott GummereSeneca LX. ON HARMFUL PRAYERS 1. I file a complaint, I enter a suit, I am angry. Do you still desire what your nurse, your guardian, or your mother, have prayed for in your behalf? Do you not yet understand what evil they prayed for? Alas, how hostile to us are the wishes of our own folk! And they are all the more hostile in proportion as they are more completely fulfilled. It is no surprise to me, at my age, that nothing but evil attends us from our early youth; for we have grown up amid the curses invoked by our parents. And may the gods give ear to our cry also, uttered in our own behalf,—one which asks no favours! 2. How long shall we go on making demands upon the gods, as if we were still unable to support ourselves? How long shall we continue to fill with grain the market-places of our great cities? How long must the people gather it in for us? How long shall many ships convey the requisites for a single meal, bringing them from no single sea? The bull is filled when he feeds over a few acres; and one forest is large enough for a herd of elephants. Man, however, draws sustenance both from the earth and from the sea. 3. What, then? Did nature give us bellies so insatiable, when she gave us these puny bodies, that we should outdo the hugest and most voracious animals in greed? Not at all. How small is the amount which will satisfy nature? A very little will send her away contented. It is not the natural hunger of our bellies that costs us dear, but our solicitous cravings. 4. Therefore those who, as Sallust[1] puts it, “hearken to their bellies,” should be numbered among the animals, and not among men; and certain men, indeed, should be numbered, not even among the animals, but among the dead. He really lives who is made use of by many; he really lives who makes use of himself. Those men, however, who creep into a hole and grow torpid[2] are no better off in their homes than if they were in their tombs. Right there on the marble lintel of the house of such a man you may inscribe his name,[3] for he has died before he is dead. Farewell. ↑ Catiline, i. 1. ↑ i.e., like animals. ↑ i.e., you may put an epitaph upon his dwelling as if it were a tomb.
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Let's Analyse the Pattern
Well-meaning loved ones sabotage growth by praying for comfort instead of strength, creating dependency disguised as blessing.
Why This Matters
Connect literature to life
This chapter teaches how to recognize when well-intentioned help actually weakens the person being helped.
Practice This Today
This week, notice when someone offers to solve a problem for you—ask yourself whether accepting will make you stronger or more dependent.
Now let's explore the literary elements.
Key Quotes & Analysis
"Do you not yet understand what evil they prayed for? Alas, how hostile to us are the wishes of our own folk!"
Context: Seneca is pointing out how parents' loving prayers for their children's comfort and wealth actually harm them
This reveals the central irony of the letter—that love can be destructive when it seeks to shield us from the very challenges that build character. The people who care most about us may be the ones preventing our growth.
In Today's Words:
Don't you see how your family's good intentions are actually messing you up? The people who love you most might be holding you back.
"How long shall we go on making demands upon the gods, as if we were still unable to support ourselves?"
Context: He's criticizing humanity's endless prayers for more stuff instead of developing self-reliance
This challenges the reader to grow up and take responsibility instead of constantly asking for external help. It's about moving from dependence to independence, from asking to acting.
In Today's Words:
When are we going to stop begging for help and start handling our own business like adults?
"The bull is filled when he feeds over a few acres; and one forest is large enough for a herd of elephants. Man, however, draws sustenance both from the earth and from the sea."
Context: He's contrasting animals' simple needs with humans' complex, global demands for luxury
This highlights how we've created artificial needs that make us dependent and never satisfied. Animals know when they have enough, but humans always want more, requiring resources from everywhere.
In Today's Words:
A cow is happy with grass from one field, elephants are fine with one forest, but humans need stuff shipped from all over the planet just to eat dinner.
Thematic Threads
Class
In This Chapter
Seneca exposes how wealth creates artificial needs and spiritual poverty, contrasting the simple contentment of animals with the endless appetites of the rich
Development
Builds on earlier themes by showing how class privilege actually becomes a trap
In Your Life:
You might notice how having more money sometimes makes you want things you never needed before
Identity
In This Chapter
The distinction between people who truly live (contributing and growing) versus those who merely exist in luxury
Development
Deepens the ongoing question of what makes a life worth living
In Your Life:
You might question whether you're building something meaningful or just consuming comfort
Family
In This Chapter
Parents and guardians unknowingly harm those they love by praying for ease rather than strength
Development
Introduced here as a new perspective on family relationships
In Your Life:
You might recognize times when family 'help' actually made you weaker or more dependent
Desire
In This Chapter
Human wants grow without limit while actual needs remain small, creating perpetual dissatisfaction
Development
Continues exploration of how desires trap us in cycles of wanting
In Your Life:
You might notice how getting what you want often just makes you want something else
Growth
In This Chapter
Real living requires using your abilities and contributing to others, not hiding in comfort
Development
Reinforces that growth comes through challenge, not ease
In Your Life:
You might realize your best personal growth happened during difficult times, not easy ones
You now have the context. Time to form your own thoughts.
Discussion Questions
- 1
According to Seneca, what's the problem with the prayers and wishes that families typically make for their loved ones?
analysis • surface - 2
Why does Seneca compare humans unfavorably to cattle when it comes to our needs and desires?
analysis • medium - 3
Where do you see this pattern of 'poisoned prayers' in modern families—parents or loved ones trying to help in ways that actually weaken the person?
application • medium - 4
How would you distinguish between help that builds someone's strength versus help that creates dependency?
application • deep - 5
What does Seneca's letter reveal about the relationship between comfort and character development?
reflection • deep
Critical Thinking Exercise
Audit Your Own Prayers
List five things you've recently hoped for, prayed for, or wished would happen to you or someone you love. For each item, write whether it would make the person stronger or more comfortable. Then rewrite each wish to focus on building capacity rather than removing challenges.
Consider:
- •Consider whether getting what you want would require you to develop new skills or eliminate the need for skills
- •Think about the difference between short-term relief and long-term growth
- •Ask yourself what kind of person this wish would create if it came true
Journaling Prompt
Write about a time when something you thought was bad for you turned out to build your strength, or when something you thought was good for you actually made you weaker. What did you learn about the difference between what feels good and what is good?
Coming Up Next...
Chapter 61: Making Peace with Your Final Exit
Having challenged us to stop wanting what we've always wanted, Seneca turns to perhaps the ultimate test of wisdom: how we face our own mortality. In the next letter, he explores what it means to meet death not with fear, but with genuine cheerfulness.




